denuff
Ned Coleman's Partner
Nothing is like it seems and nothing seems like it is!!!
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Post by denuff on Oct 17, 2007 18:37:03 GMT -5
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peg
Mitchapalooza Party Girl
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Post by peg on Oct 17, 2007 18:43:14 GMT -5
That concerns me I hope it is a rumor
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bettygem
Mitchapalooza Party Girl
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Post by bettygem on Oct 17, 2007 18:55:42 GMT -5
www.celebritynewslive.com/owen_wilson_drinking_againI hope they aren't true too, however this one has this in it. If that is the case they getting a little merry (although not drunk) is not as bad as it first seems. This story seems to have been started by Life and Style magazine The picture they have used is from Oct 5th the date they claim he was drunk but if he was so drunk would he or anyone else let him drive, I don't think so. I think the story is BS. 2 pictures from Oct 5th
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denuff
Ned Coleman's Partner
Nothing is like it seems and nothing seems like it is!!!
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Post by denuff on Oct 17, 2007 19:04:59 GMT -5
f...,if this wud he be my big brother,I wud kick hims as #no#
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Post by SugarMagnolia on Oct 17, 2007 19:27:24 GMT -5
I'm a bit worried -- although I know that the photos used can be completely and utterly twisted to make it seem like he was drunk even if he wasn't. There are photos of him from a few years ago with he and Andrew leaving a club, and he looked much more out of it back then. God, I hope he's going to be alright. And I hope he has good people around him. I hope he manages to feel better about himself, and better in the right way (not from drugs, alcohol or sleeping with multiple people). We love you Owen. www.celebritynewslive.com/owen_wilson_drinking_againI hope they aren't true too, however this one has this in it. If that is the case they getting a little merry (although not drunk) is not as bad as it first seems. This story seems to have been started by Life and Style magazine The picture they have used is from Oct 5th the date they claim he was drunk but if he was so drunk would he or anyone else let him drive, I don't think so. I think the story is BS. 2 pictures from Oct 5th
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Post by texasgal on Oct 17, 2007 21:04:16 GMT -5
This story may or may not be true. If Owen wasn't drunk, it wouldn't be news so, in order to write a story and sell it, they had to present Owen as being drunk. And, because of his trouble in August, of course readers are going to believe it and not question the story's validity. We have no idea of the credibility of the people who allegedly witnessed this or that of the writers of the story. Me, I'm just going to wait and see if there's corroborating "evidence," in the future, evidence of alcoholism that is. (And pray this rumor is false).
As for the photos, I don't see anything in particular about Owen's appearance that says drunk. He might be bending forward to avoid the paparazzi. And I get the impression he's leaning back in the driver's seat because he's closing the door and hunting for his seat belt. And, for all I know, maybe he accidentally sat on something he's trying to pull out from under himself and that's why he's leaning back in the seat. That's all I see in these photos, but maybe I'm missing something.
Oh, and he also looks really good!
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Post by OwenFan96 on Oct 17, 2007 21:59:32 GMT -5
it does look like hes leaning back to shut the door, you can see its still open and is that garcia in the back? why would he take his dog to a party??? i would be afraid someone would steal him.. and life & style is about as truthful as star.. i agree with texasgal people are going to make stuff up about him just because of his recent troubles, its all about making $
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Post by texasgal on Oct 17, 2007 22:09:03 GMT -5
Yes, that does look like it could be Garcia in the back seat. Maybe Owen brought Garcia to the party because there were people there who wanted to see Garcia? Maybe the party was outside and there was a place for Garcia to be.
Yes, I'm sure Owen is just closing the door. It is slightly open, and it's obvious his left hand is on the door's handle. Maybe the door is hard to close, and that's why he's leaning to his right to get some leverage.
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Post by leslee on Oct 18, 2007 12:19:31 GMT -5
I just don't believe this,those pictures are no proof and he doesn't look drunk,he's just getting into his car. Jesus,the Media seems to go totally #crazy# #crazy#
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Post by Lom83 on Oct 18, 2007 13:18:40 GMT -5
That concerns me I hope it is a rumor Me too. Drinking problems are a serious thing... Well I certainly hope not... I think its true, its too easy to exaggerate or make something out of nothing really, if the editor thought they could make a story out of a couple of fairly boring photos, to get more copies of their magazine or whatever sold, then they probably would do that but its kind of hard to tell whether he was totally drunk. I mean if you think what you'd look like and how you'd react with big flashing cameras in front of you, I'd probably have wide eyes and look a little shocked too lol. It sounds like, from the little I really know about him, that he does like to party a fair bit which is something I really don't do and is maybe not too good for you (if you get involved with the wrong 'stuff') but who am I to tell him what to do really? it makes me sad when I read this I hope so too. Its sad to think that he (presumably) feels or used to feel so bad about himself, like so many people im sure think or say, considering all the successes he's had. I admit I definately have times when I get kind of angry and not very happy with myself but you just sort of presume that people who are seen as being happily in the public eye through the work they do, are perfectly content with themselves & what they do. Its sad... it also reminds you that people can hide things well! I sometimes wonder if people who really party hard like have alot of bad memories that they do that to get away from, like when I read about people with substance problems alot of it often stems from issues that they didn't feel they could deal with and wanted to escape from... you know when people really aren't much keen on themselves it doesn't much matter what others say, they still feel the same *shrug* I know in the past people told me stuff I don't entirely believe still... but anyway yeah I hope he finds a coping strategy that works for him.
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caraboo
Hutch's Tiny Dancer
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Post by caraboo on Oct 18, 2007 15:42:45 GMT -5
This is such BS. 1. Owen does not drive drunk. He chooses to ride on those we'll take you home scooters if he has been drinking, or take a hotel room. a) He has a strong sense of civil responsibiity b) He's a very smart man with foresight. He would know what being drunk after his mental health issues would look like. (Unfortunately, this is going to dog him for quite some time) 2.He does not have any drug and alcohol issues. He has a severe clinical depression that he has been battling for years. He did not make an attempt on his life. He committed an act of self-harm involving his left wrist, which is very common in people who are over-whelmed by emotional pain that they can't seem to stop, they inflict the sensation of physical pain. 3. Another thing. The US does not have pubs like the UK and Australia, It's Bars and Clubs all the way. So If anyone has a social gathering in a club or bar with alcohol, the assumption by the media is that it's got to be nothing less than a party. Where I come from if you meet with friends and drink in a pub, it's a social gathering with friends.
Nuff said, Caroline the Psychologist, over and out.
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Post by texasgal on Oct 18, 2007 16:59:14 GMT -5
I was talking with another Owen fan who's not a member of this forum but who reads it. We agree that it's highly unlikely Owen is a substance abuser. He lives too healthy a lifestyle, seeming to prefer being at the beach, swimming, running, and just being outside in general. These activities are inconsistent with the lifestyle of an alcoholic or drug abuser. And he just LOOKS too healthy to be addicted to any kind of substance.
It seems that everyone who's anyone in Entertainment gets labeled as a drug addict, alcoholic, depressed, or having some other mental health issue. These labels just seem to come with the Business. You're famous? Great, you're also this, that, or some other "defective" thing. There are no NORMAL people in Entertainment: that's the message the media seems to want us to take home.
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Post by SugarMagnolia on Oct 18, 2007 17:10:47 GMT -5
I just wanted to say I really appreciated your post, caraboo.
I think you're right, the photos are paparazzi photos that can be twisted and spun to make it seem like something happened that didn't happen. I believe what you said about Owen having a strong sense of responsibility, he's intelligent and a good person, and he wouldn't drive if he was drunk, and his friends wouldn't sit by and let it go that way.
I wish there was something I could say or do that would make him feel better, that would make him not want to hurt himself. I know that the need to self-harm is a really difficult situation, and I don't know if it helps to know people care about you and love you, we care about you and we love you very very much, Owen. #loveyou#
Edited to add, yes, Texasgal, I agree he looks healthy and wonderful - he eats oatmeal and blueberries! He's taking care of himself, and he has people who love him.
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Post by texasgal on Oct 18, 2007 20:47:11 GMT -5
Thanks, SugarMagnolia. I think we, like all the media and myself included, have jumped to a lot of conclusions we know nothing about. For example, to state that Owen is alcoholic, drug addicted, or has "severe clinical depression" are nothing but assumptions based on what we've read in the media and been encouraged to think.
For all we know, Owen might have accidentally fell off his skateboard and cut his left wrist on some broken glass.* But naturally, because there's a cut wrist involved, the media - including the police report - flew off the handle.
None of what we've read has been confirmed by Owen or his closest family members.
Edited to add: *And maybe the subsequent hospitalization occurred because he might have also bumped his head, maybe even causing concussion. And if there was concussion, he might have been hospitalized to make sure there was no brain injury.
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Post by texasgal on Oct 19, 2007 11:14:21 GMT -5
Double posting....
The more I've thought about it, the more troubled I've become. You know, if someone actually KNOWS Owen well enough to diagnose him as "severely clinically depressed" or who knows Owen well enough to know this fact about him and posts it, that person has violated Owen's privacy and is no friend of his.
I find this especially disturbing when Owen has not yet announced this fact about himself publicly.
No names, but if this poster knows this information about Owen on a professional level, he/she is in violation of patient privacy laws. Where I come from, this issue is so significant that violations of it can and do lead to immediate job dismissal.
Until Owen confirms this about himself, I'd take this alleged information with as much grain of salt as anything else that's been posted or written about him.
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