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Post by Meribethm on Mar 31, 2004 11:18:16 GMT -5
According to this, it seems O is a John Kerry supporter. No real surprise there, eh?
The actual story does not match the headline (O's name isn't in the story), so I just posted the headline. a It was a fundraiser attended by a bunch of celebrities.
Kerry raises more than $3 million with fund-raisers attended by ... San Jose Mercury News, CA - 8 hours ago ... Helen Hunt, Henry Winkler, Danny DeVito, Rhea Perlman, Peter Boyle, Quincy Jones, Tobey Maguire, Ed Harris, David Spade, Owen Wilson, Christina Applegate, Ted
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DarkRoan
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Post by DarkRoan on Mar 31, 2004 11:23:04 GMT -5
hmmmmmm....I guess it makes sense, but for me, I don't see Kerry winning the white house...he doesn't have the quality or the track record to beat President Bush. Even though I don't agree on anything he is doing or wants to do, I still believe Pres. Bush has the chance to still do something really great for America. I just hope he does it.
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Post by Looney Linn on Mar 31, 2004 12:30:59 GMT -5
Check out truemajority.org. I love them. It is an organization created by Ben Cohen, the co-founder of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream. He has a wonderful Oreo skit that really puts things into perspective. Click Here!
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KitKaos
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Post by KitKaos on Mar 31, 2004 12:40:02 GMT -5
Um, I know I don't really have anything to do with American politics (course I have an opinion on it, and I would probably join truemajority.org if I was American, but that's a whole different story here) -- but don't you think we should maybe keep political issues off the board? I mean, we're all here to discuss our favorite hunks... not to argue about presidency...
Just my two cents...
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Post by Looney Linn on Mar 31, 2004 13:19:40 GMT -5
Well I think that people have the right to talk about whatever they want, but since this is heading into politics and away from Owen, I think that it belongs in the anything goes section. I am going to move it there.
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Post by Meribethm on Mar 31, 2004 13:41:30 GMT -5
Thanks for moving it. It has veered off into "Anything Goes"
My intention was just a quick FYI on O's activities.
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KCkelley
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Post by KCkelley on Mar 31, 2004 22:20:03 GMT -5
I am voting for Ralph Nader! Simply because I can't stand Bush or Kerry
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Post by LegallyLukes on Apr 1, 2004 1:18:22 GMT -5
I'm not American so I don't get to vote, but to make a long story short (and it's a very long story when I get going ), I hate George Bush and everything he stands for and everything he's ever said or done to this world since he's been in power. He's the antithesis of everything I stand for. I wish he would just disappear. I truly believe that the man is an embarassment to his people and his country and that the best thing you'll ever do is vote against him. I can't think of a single good thing he's done, he's only stirred up hate and misunderstanding everywhere he's cast his eye. Americans forget that what their government decides has an enormous impact on the rest of the world. As a citizen of the world I can quite honestly say that Bush is an enemy of everyone who believes in peace and freedom. We sit here and shake our heads and wonder what that crazy American government is going to do next. I wish I was American so I could vote against him. Please, America, for love, life and freedom, don't re-elect that mad-man. [Disclaimer: I want no one to misunderstand me here, I'm not anti-American, only anti-the-current-American-government. This is only my opinion and I'll ask you to try and consider it objectively. Thanks ;D]
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Margot
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Post by Margot on Apr 1, 2004 2:07:54 GMT -5
The current American government is truly bizarre, beginning with how it came to be. The majority of us actually did not vote for Bush in the last election. He got into office by winning a contest of wills against Al Gore.
Bush became president because Gore gracefully backed out of the fray, rather than let it drag on. I guess he thought it was better to have someone get on with running the country than to drag out the confrontation.
Bush, on the other hand, seems to go out of his way to invent confrontation. He certainly doesn't seem to consider what would be in the best interest of the country or the world.
But, to be fair, I was glad to have him as president on 9/11/01. He was a comfort in the midst of crisis. His followup actions are definitely questionable, though.
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Post by texasgal on Apr 1, 2004 6:54:29 GMT -5
Those of you who don't like George Bush: I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE! And my respect for Owen just increased a bazillion-fold to know he's supporting John Kerry.
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Post by Looney Linn on Apr 1, 2004 10:45:24 GMT -5
I can't stand Bush but I also am not very fond of Kerry. This country needs to find some candidates who are actually worthy of the presidency before it goes to hell in a handbasket.
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Post by texasgal on Apr 1, 2004 18:04:44 GMT -5
I didn't have time to truly vent my spleen this morning, and since I feel like I'm among friends, I'll do that now.
I can't think of anyone I'd rather see in the White House than Ralph Nader. (Reps & Dems: "A pox on both your houses".) I'd like to know first what Mr. Nader's policy toward Israel would be. But, unfortunately, Mr. Nader cannot beat George Bush. John Kerry is the only viable candidate for that.
You non-Americans need to realize that we Americans are an odd lot. We impeach a president for lying about sex with a consenting adult. Then our Supreme Court imposes on us a president who starts a reckless, unprovoked, immoral war against Iraq. Turns out he lied about WMD. Anyone with an ounce of honor would apologize and resign. Not this guy. Not only does he not apologize for the war, he JOKES about no WMD. While people are getting killed and hurt, he JOKES! His humor escapes me.
Two weeks after 9/11/01, George Bush wrecked all the sympathy and good will of the world in one single speech. You know, the "you're with us or you're against us" speech. Like divisive, dictatorial language like that is supposed to inspire camaraderie! If anyone said that to me, I'd be inclined to say "Screw you!" He also used the word "crusade." The "C" word is NOT the word to use when trying to get cooperation from Muslim nations. It is just as inflammatory to their ears as it is to my Jewish ears!
Bush talked a year ago about Saddam gassing the Kurds. Um, when that happened, Saddam was Our Boy. We said not a word, did not a thing when that happened. Then in March 2003 - more than a decade after the fact - the gassing of the Kurds suddenly was an issue! Unbelievable!
A photo I'd love to see and never will: George Bush explaining to that little Iraqi boy whose arms were blown off that the boy is SO much better off now that Saddam is gone.
Mr. Bush likes to use theological language in his speeches. He who has innocent blood on his hands dares to use theological speech. To me, this crosses the line of decency.
To those who said if Howard Dean were president, Saddam Hussein would still be running Iraq, I say this: Yes, and 4,000 U.S. casualties and God knows how many Iraqi casualties later, what have we got to show for our splendid little war? I would like to see democracy brought to America more so than to Iraq.
Being a Baby Boomer, I can't help but think of past military engagements. Seems to me there have been LIES associated with every one of them since WWII. Those of us who lived through the Vietnam War years should know better than to trust our president.
Being 53 years old, I want to tell a story to those of you too young to remember. And I don't mean that in the offensive sense at all!
During the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, President Kennedy sent his rep, Dean Acheson, to Paris for a little chat with President Charles DeGaulle. Mr. Acheson brought with him a stackful of evidence. But Mr. DeGaulle brushed him aside saying, "Don't bother me with your damn evidence. I trust the word of President Kennedy. If President Kennedy says the missiles are there, they are there!"
I don't idolize John Kennedy, but would George Bush inspire the same level of trust?
Mr. Kennedy even did one better. The spy plane satellite photos were shown on TV FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE!
Not only that, Mr. Kennedy avoided the military option, opting instead for a non-aggressive approach. And the missile crisis was resolved.
George Bush needs to come home to Crawford and play on his ranch with his oil rigs and cattle and what have you. He should leave governing to the Big Boys. People who actually know how to say NUCLEAR.
OK, I'm feeling better already. Thanks for your tolerance, dear friends!
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Post by Looney Linn on Apr 1, 2004 18:35:08 GMT -5
You know, the entire Iraq ordeal is embarrassing, but what I find even more appalling is the way that Bush has attempted to take away American liberties. I know he recently stated that he wanted to grant broadband access to every american citizen! Why so that he could spy on all of us? The Homeland Security Act is nothing more than a way for the government to keep tabs on every single citizen. Whatever happened to freedom of privacy? He is using people's fears of terrorism to become a snoop, at best. The man was quoted as saying "there ought to be limits to freedom" in 1999. Now is that really someone that we want in our white house? Besides, aren't there so many more deserving programs that require money. we should be revamping our schools, not funding billion dollar wars. I have a theory, and it is that if we spend soooo much money defending ourselves, and don't put the money into schools and education, then what are we really defending?? It is our job to make the future a better place. I for one don't think that Bush could accomplish this if his life depended on it.
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KCkelley
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Post by KCkelley on Apr 1, 2004 18:35:24 GMT -5
I can't stand Bush but I also am not very fond of Kerry. This country needs to find some candidates who are actually worthy of the presidency before it goes to hell in a handbasket. Amen! Speaking of "amen", I find the fact that the 10 Commandments were taken down offensive and completely unnecessary. I don't care if there are people that aren't christian. This country was found on Christianity and it should stay that way, not change for the immigrants that come in. I also find that taking the words "under God" out of the pledge of allegiance stupid and COMPLETELY unnecessary as well. If you are against it, just don't say the pledge of allegiance. I hate the way our country is run these days. Let's all bow down to the immigrants that want to change the ways of America. I cannot stand this. This country is screwed if we keep it up like this. And sorry if I offended anyone or seem completely random, but I have been really angry about all this non-christian stuff going on. Again I apologize! -Kelley
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Post by Looney Linn on Apr 1, 2004 18:39:45 GMT -5
No Kelley, don't apologize. i completely agree with you! Our fore fathers didn't want a national religion set up, that was the reason for the seperation of church and state. They never thought that all mention of religion would become forbidden. The pledge of allegiance is a sacred thing, not only because it represents our flag, but also because it represents the freedom to practice any religion you choose! I mean for crying out loud. It isn't just seperation of church and state when you simply supress all mention of God! It is appalling. Our country is really in some trouble.
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