bettygem
Mitchapalooza Party Girl
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Post by bettygem on Nov 9, 2007 17:11:00 GMT -5
Thank you so much for those scans, I am unable to get American magazines where I live so again thank you for taking the time to scan those.
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Post by SugarMagnolia on Nov 10, 2007 1:14:18 GMT -5
You're very very welcome!
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Post by texasgal on Nov 10, 2007 7:15:59 GMT -5
Lom, it just seems that there's been a lot of back-pedaling going on about how serious the August event was. It's coming from Wes and those closest to Owen. Only the media continues this drumbeat of how close to death Owen was, using phrases like "suicide attempt" and "troubled star," his continuing use of drugs/alcohol, etc.
When you think of it, things just don't add up. If there was no drug overdose and the wrist laceration was superficial, why would an ambulance have been necessary? Owen, being the responsible person he is, would not have enlisted an ambulance for what has been described as a "superficial" cut, given our overworked medical system. Seems more likely that someone would have taken Owen to the hospital in their own vehicle; Owen might have been too distraught to drive himself. But an ambulance for a superficial cut?? Heck, I had a 6-inch gash that cut through a tendon, and there was no ambulance! A friend drove me to the ER in her own car.
So yes, I'm inclined to think it's the media that has been overkilling the drama. It's not Owen. Whatever, Owen will explain everything himself sometime as Wes has hinted, and all these questions will be answered.
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Post by Lom83 on Nov 10, 2007 7:18:58 GMT -5
Lom, it just seems that there's been a lot of back-pedaling going on about how serious the August event was. It's coming from Wes and those closest to Owen. Only the media continues this drumbeat of how close to death Owen was, using phrases like "suicide attempt" and "troubled star," his continuing use of drugs/alcohol, etc. When you think of it, things just don't add up. If there was no drug overdose and the wrist laceration was superficial, why would an ambulance have been necessary? Owen, being the responsible person he is, would not have enlisted an ambulance for what has been described as a "superficial" cut, given our overworked medical system. Seems more likely that someone would have taken Owen to the hospital in their own vehicle; Owen might have been too distraught to drive himself. But an ambulance for a superficial cut?? Heck, I had a 6-inch gash that cut through a tendon, and there was no ambulance! A friend drove me to the ER in her own car. So yes, I'm inclined to think it's the media that has been overkilling the drama. It's not Owen. Whatever, Owen will explain everything himself sometime as Wes has hinted, and all these questions will be answered. Well yes, I'd certainly be doubting that it would be him behind it because of the statement he released, apart from anything else. He never wanted the mass hysteria the media insisted on, so why even want people to think it was as bad as the magazines/newspapers make it out to be?...
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anna
Hutch's Tiny Dancer
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Post by anna on Nov 10, 2007 7:41:08 GMT -5
I've read a couple of posts of this topic (too much to read all!)
Personally I didn't know about his suicide attempt, but what shocked me the most was the media making the event out of it, I can't even describe how annoyed I get when I search through youtube for some Owen and half of the stuff there is - concerns this^ - and what is even worse - very often in a really mean way (in some cases which just seems unbelievable - they actually make fun!!!!! #whip# )
I didn't know about it until - two weeks ago maybe - it saddened me so much, I was surprised at my own reaction but I felt really down like it was about one of my friends... however I do think it's strictly private and wish the media could leave IT alone, once he feels like talking about it he will, until then I hope there won't be any speculations or even worse any questions.
I also agree about this "insider" or "close friend" thing - who are these people?! are they made up by the press or such people really exist and have the nerve to reveal anything from their "friend's" life? ugh .
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Post by texasgal on Nov 10, 2007 7:46:13 GMT -5
Hi Anna, yes I agree the rumors about Owen are ugly.
I heard it from Wes that Owen did not try to commit suicide; that this has been over-hyped by the media. Wes did say that he would rather not say much more about it than that, and that Owen would someday talk about it himself.
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Post by Lom83 on Nov 10, 2007 8:51:56 GMT -5
I have to say, not wanting to fuel any rumours on any more really but I am a little confused, if his friends are trying to say that things are blown out of proportions and that he didn't attempt suicide, then surely it would make sense to say what did happen and to set the story straight... instead by simply saying that they (ie the media) have got it wrong and that at some point in time Owen will set the record straight, thats not really going to stop the media from speculating what did happen, in fact its more likely to do that since its saying that the story is wrong, think about what maybe happened instead, go discuss, you know? its kind of annoying when you know there's probably a totally different story behind it but it isn't elaborated on.
On the other hand, I don't particularly blame the friends, I wouldn't want to go behind anyones back and blab about what happened, esp. when its probably still very personal... if Owen wants to wait until everything has calmed down and there's no real media coverage on him, before he then steps up and goes to them to give his side of the story, it makes you think that if he needs the time to heal and think it all through and recover at all then clearly something fairly serious did still happen, for that to be necessary.
I hope that doesn't sound too cold because I don't want him to rush just to prove the media that they were wrong to talk about it but it is confusing from a fans POV to figure out quite what did go on... there again its important to remember that as much as its true that when we hear something like that about someone we have a fondness for and that we admire, we obviously worry and feel sad about it and hope the best for the person(s) involved, we're strangers to him/them really and so really have no better an insight to what happened and really no more of a right to find out than any other member of the public I guess.
I do feel a little guilty that sometimes I want to hear what the true story is and find out about it all to know if some of the media reports are true but I guess we'll find out in time. I still reckon though it might not have been as bad as what was originally reported, something pretty 'wrong' or sad must have happened if it made him pull out of at least one movie and go to hospital and all the rest. Its a real shame and its hard to know what to make of it or how to feel about it all when you don't know the full story but like I say, we've no real right to that... ehh who knows?
lol blah im thinking aloud again, yak yak yak lol ill stop this here before I go on any more! I think I make some valid points though, its probably all been covered before *shrug*.
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Post by texasgal on Nov 10, 2007 10:41:52 GMT -5
Wes said what he said on Terri Gross' show because he was directly asked. Terri did allow him to not answer the question if he would prefer, but maybe Wes wanted Terri and the audience to take away something from the question. So he answered in as briefly and succinctly as possible - which I think most people would have done. But he did say that he would prefer Owen to elaborate. After all, it's Owen's story to tell, not anyone else's. Which is true.
Being that I'm just curious ('nosey' may be more accurate) and an Owen fan, I'd like to know what happened. I mean, you have to admit it is a mysterious event which would naturally elicit interest. It's human nature to be curious about something that doesn't happen every day to every person. And so many stories conflict, and things don't make sense such as the use of the ambulance which I addressed above. I think it's all fueling my nosiness.
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Post by Lom83 on Nov 10, 2007 11:05:06 GMT -5
Wes said what he said on Terri Gross' show because he was directly asked. Terri did allow him to not answer the question if he would prefer, but maybe Wes wanted Terri and the audience to take away something from the question. So he answered in as briefly and succinctly as possible - which I think most people would have done. But he did say that he would prefer Owen to elaborate. After all, it's Owen's story to tell, not anyone else's. Which is true. Being that I'm just curious ('nosey' may be more accurate) and an Owen fan, I'd like to know what happened. I mean, you have to admit it is a mysterious event which would naturally elicit interest. It's human nature to be curious about something that doesn't happen every day to every person. And so many stories conflict, and things don't make sense such as the use of the ambulance which I addressed above. I think it's all fueling my nosiness. Same here. Its like worrying about a friend that you've heard things about through other people but can't talk to directly to get the proper picture.
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Post by texasgal on Nov 10, 2007 13:41:58 GMT -5
Very well put, Lom.
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Post by Lom83 on Nov 10, 2007 13:50:39 GMT -5
Oh thanks lol for a change I didn't waffle too much then #bounce#
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anna
Hutch's Tiny Dancer
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Post by anna on Nov 10, 2007 14:02:25 GMT -5
yes, definitely well put and I completely agree
I am curious as well but willing to wait - as long as he's ok and happy - I'm happy too
All I would want is the media come off it and stopped treating him like the person who tried to kill himself (or not... we'll see someday) but OWEN WILSON - the same person all along still admired by many #wink#
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Post by Lom83 on Nov 10, 2007 14:35:18 GMT -5
Yeah it definately showed people (and himself I hope) that he has alot of fans and that there's only good things to say about him
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Post by hutchshottie on Nov 10, 2007 15:09:18 GMT -5
I love them pics. Esp that one in the suit I agree with Tex, it seems the whole Aug event was blown around by the media and could be over exagerated. Owen will tell us in his own time what happened. I am not sure what i make of it. All i know was that he was hurt somehow and needed time to heal and get better. It could have been a small accident with a kitchen knife while he was cooking? But what if it was something different entirely. The press went straight to "suicide attempt". Maybe he was attacked at home and defended himself? Maybe he was cutting that damn tough steak and the knife slipped? Maybe he was dusting and a glass vase broke? So may "Maybes". Tex is right, we are all curious about things. Just like how we stare at accidents and watch police walk into a neighbours house. We would all like to know what really happened. I am sure he will tell us when he is ready.
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Post by SugarMagnolia on Nov 10, 2007 16:18:21 GMT -5
I agree, the media really needs to learn to step back on these kinds of things. I'm just not completely sure if Wes actually phrased it as he did not really want to commit suicide, or if he phrased it as he did not attempt suicide, or if he phrased it as he wasn't close to death. That might mean that there was something seriously wrong, serious enough that it was decided to call the ambulance and do the hospital stay. We talked about the not close to death quote over at the IMDB, and you're right that most would interpret that as it wasn't so serious please don't worry - there is a slight ambiguity though, because if Wes was saying that "close to death doesn't describe the experience he went through" could mean that it was serious enough that it wasn't "merely" close to death (i.e. a code being called or last rights). The photos that appeared with his scar on the beach left me with the impression that it could have been a really deep cut, unless the photos were altered in some way. And I just hope all the best for Wes and Owen, it has to have been so hard for Wes to go through these kinds of interviews no matter what. He's a wonderful friend, and he's probably never been through something like this before either. It must be bad enough just having people making misunderstood criticisms of your films. I hope he knows we're supporting him too. I wasn't sure if anyone here had seen this, but a few days ago the Sun Times in Chicago mentioned a rumor that Owen might be planning a Youtube video where he could talk about it on his own terms, without anyone using the interview for their own gain. It may just be a rumor, but with all of us talking about the questions we have in our minds and whether he might want to talk about it someday, I thought it might be relevant to mention. I haven't posted it on places like IMDB because I really don't know if it's plausible and there's already too many rumors and paparazzi junk. www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/638689,CST-FTR-zp07.article "TUBING IT: I'm hearing that Owen Wilson may elect to tell his story about his alleged suicide attempt in his own words in a special YouTube posting where he basically will be interviewing himself." I did think the idea of Owen dusting and breaking a vase was a cute one, hopefully it's something that can be overcome... if only it could have been something that you could turn into a light comedy moment when you look back on it later, like breaking a vase.
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