greenclover
Anthony's Spanish Tutor
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Post by greenclover on Jul 11, 2006 10:57:12 GMT -5
thanks for that nora i agree all the france knows that zidane isn't a liar
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Post by Natalie on Jul 11, 2006 14:29:54 GMT -5
Ok... Buffon would translated into portuguese as something like "breathing heavily" ... very appropriate... #biglol# I love it! Right, but the Italians are liars. They won, and people aren't happy. Oh well! They'll have to get over it. When Italy lost to Brazil on penalty kicks, the Italians were upset, but they weren't sore losers. We won this time. And it was well-earned. We can go on and on about this. . .What cracks me up in the Telegraph article is that they say if FIFA doesn't do anything about these accusations, they are saying that racism is accepted. Right, but award someone for headbutting and getting red-carded. That is a great way to act. Very intelligent. We will NEVER know what they said to each other. I don't care what Zidane says, what Materazzi says, or what these "sources" say. We will never know the truth. I have heard 4 different things that supposedly Materazzi said. That shows what a bunch of rumors they are. Every article expands it and put their spin on it or changes it. Try reading this article too: wc2006.telegraph.co.uk/Document.aspx?id=80B1302D-C37A-4C38-B9C7-81D1B7A9719AIn one of the articles it says: I've seen most of those times. It's ridiculous. And it also says: I agree. What message does that send out? And then he got awarded on top of that. What I find crazy is that some people are trying to place the blame fully on Materazzi and the Italians. Like they had a string on Zidane's head and forced it on Materazzi. In every damn game the players insult and provoke each other. From the games they play in school, to the ones played in the neighborhood, to the World Cup levels. He didn't keep his cool, he messed up, it's his fault. He could have held back. Nana, I'm still laughing about the "Buffon" translation. Edited to say: This is the last time I am even going to talk about Zidane and the incident. I will now enjoy the Italian win and wish them many more!
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Post by Nana on Jul 11, 2006 19:05:24 GMT -5
#hurrah# I'm still in this mood for Italy!!!
And, who cares about the losers? Really... just celebrate your victory and let 'em talk...
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Post by Natalie on Jul 11, 2006 19:06:53 GMT -5
Nana, great minds think alike! How hilarious, I had just edited my above post with the exact same sentiment! Too funny!
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Post by Librarian on Jul 11, 2006 20:45:34 GMT -5
I bought some Italian beer in celebration! Peroni! edited to add - Thanks for the Buffon porn!
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Post by Natalie on Jul 11, 2006 22:11:13 GMT -5
Awesome Lib! No problem! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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Post by texasgal on Jul 11, 2006 22:11:37 GMT -5
So is anyone starting to save $$ for South Africa 2010?
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Nora
Hutch's Tiny Dancer
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Post by Nora on Jul 12, 2006 12:46:28 GMT -5
What I find crazy is that some people are trying to place the blame fully on Materazzi and the Italians. Like they had a string on Zidane's head and forced it on Materazzi. In every damn game the players insult and provoke each other. From the games they play in school, to the ones played in the neighborhood, to the World Cup levels. He didn't keep his cool, he messed up, it's his fault. He could have held back. LOL This is what you said a few days ago. "What great sportsmanship shown by Zidane... (Not!) That was absolutely disgusting what he did. I have NEVER seen such behavior, especially coming from a Team Captain in the Final of the World Cup. What a way to go out. But he only has himself to blame... "You make me laugh lol Materrazzi is the one who provokated Zidane at first. You can't deny it. Zidane is explaining about this story. For information i found an article about Materrazzi (BBC) Mad Materazzi By Phil McNulty Chief football writer
Materazzi was a pivotal figure in Italy's World Cup triumph
Marco Materazzi's career has always had an element of car crash chaos - even during his brief spell at Everton.
And never has it been more evident than in his pivotal contribution to Italy's World Cup final win against France.
I mentioned in one of my World Cup blogs that you should keep an eye on this boy because things happen when he is around. It's safe to say he proved me right in Berlin's Olympic Stadium.
Materazzi fouled Florent Malouda for France's early penalty, headed Italy's equaliser, said or did something to cause Zinedine Zidane's mind to blow and then stroked home a penalty in the shoot-out.
Just another day at the office for a turbulent individual who is a cross between pantomime villain and consummate Italian defending elegance.
Materazzi's stay in the Premiership was brief and not so glorious after he became Walter Smith's first signing for Everton from Perugia in the summer of 1998.
This maverick with a short fuse and a flawed but expansive talent has won the biggest prize in the game
BBC Sport's Phil McNulty
Those of us who waved him farewell on his return to Perugia after a single season without giving it a second thought that our paths would cross again were convinced he would be lucky to watch a World Cup final let alone play in one.
There was always a good player inside Materazzi trying to get out - but too often it was hidden behind spats, red cards and a tendency to burst into tears.
He is the son of a famous Italian coach Giuseppe Materazzi, who managed Pisa and Lazio among others and Marco always felt he was judged more harshly because of his family background.
Materazzi's most famous moment at Everton was when he was sent off against Coventry after he was the victim of a Darren Huckerby dive.
In that single season Materazzi managed to clock up three red cards and 12 yellows.
Poor Marco slumped against an advertising hoarding on the touchline in tears, and to say sympathy was in short supply from his manager Smith, his own fans and team-mates is understatement of the year.
There were highs - such as a brilliant free-kick against Middlesbrough that sparked scenes of such joy from Marco that he may still have been celebrating now had the referee not demanded a re-start.
Materazzi tussles with Andy Cole during his turbulent spell at Everton
But it ended as it had started, in tears. Materazzi left Goodison Park with little fanfare and no regrets on either side.
Gone and presumably forgotten.
Suddenly, however, he arrived at Inter Milan years later after scoring 12 goals in the 2000-2001 season - a record then for a defender in Italy.
He was being picked for Italy by Giovanni Trapattoni and Marcello Lippi - men who know a defender when they see one.
And yet the self-destruct button was still close at hand.
Materazzi was captured on camera viciously elbowing Juan Pablo Sorin of Villarreal in a Champions League clash last season, and his World Cup started in no less dramatic fashion.
Entering the fray as replacement for the injured Alessandro Nesta, Materazzi scored against the Czech Republic and was then harshly dismissed against Australia after an accident-prone incident that actually saw him foul his own player.
But this maverick with a short fuse and a flawed but expansive talent has won the biggest prize in the game - and made a massive contribution to Italy's World Cup triumph.
And those of us who dismissed him from Everton convinced we would never see or hear of him again could only watch on in a state of complete bemusement.
Marco Materazzi, World Cup winner - see how they like that down Goodison way.
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Nora
Hutch's Tiny Dancer
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Post by Nora on Jul 12, 2006 13:40:24 GMT -5
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Nora
Hutch's Tiny Dancer
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Post by Nora on Jul 12, 2006 13:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by Nana on Jul 12, 2006 22:26:23 GMT -5
Cheers to ITALIA!!!!
#hurrah#
Way to go with the Peroni Lib. It's great beer.
Did I ever tell you that my grandpa was born in San Pellegrino? Yes, the one of the water... #hmm#
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Post by Natalie on Jul 13, 2006 13:12:02 GMT -5
Cheers to ITALIA!!!! #hurrah# #cheerleader# #bravo# #cheerleader# #bravo# Way to go with the Peroni Lib. It's great beer. Librarian and I met up yesterday and we celebrated the Italian win by drinking Birra Peroni! #beer# Good times!! I'll post some pictures we found a little bit later... Did I ever tell you that my grandpa was born in San Pellegrino? Yes, the one of the water... #hmm# Nana, that is so cool!! I have a bit of trivia too...my dad's family is from where they make Di Saronno Amaretto (or Amaretto di Saronno). ;D
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Post by Natalie on Jul 13, 2006 15:25:17 GMT -5
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Post by Remi on Jul 13, 2006 15:46:06 GMT -5
Well, I've decided what I want for my next birthday... #featherpen#
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Post by furg on Jul 13, 2006 17:20:52 GMT -5
You know what both players have succeeded in doing?...Bringing out animosity. They both let themselves down, their teams, countries and fans down. Heck every player that took a dive, a slide tackle and tried to incite any player into a rage (hopefully resulting in a red card) is not exempt from the above. I'm sure you'll agree not one single team that participated in the world cup could cast the first stone, eh? You all are so fortunate your teams made it to the world cup, my team is still slogging it out with Ladies Glasgow under 16's, they are that crap. In the spirit of good sportsman ship we should enjoy it for the spectacle it was....and bulk buy The Italian football calendar for friends and family next year. Incidentally I wanted France to win the final...the Auld Alliance and all that...but no matter how you look at it, the better team won..simple as. #Gets of soap box with almighty Scotland are so shite at football chip on shoulder and shakes hands with the locker boys above# #wink#
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