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Post by hurltomato on Oct 6, 2005 13:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by Jennifer Richards on Oct 6, 2005 13:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by AlsoAVirgo on Oct 6, 2005 15:06:59 GMT -5
Hope Katie doesn't get postpardum depression! Oh, wait, there isn't such a thing! Silly me! I don't know why, but their relationship disgusts me. It just seems so fake. Hope Tom doesn't go on Oprah again soon. He'd really be jumping all over the place now! Gag!
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Post by Jennifer Richards on Oct 6, 2005 15:59:40 GMT -5
i think it seem fake too - there is something just not right going on there
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Post by texasgal on Oct 6, 2005 16:47:27 GMT -5
Hope Katie doesn't get postpardum depression! AAV, It's horrible of me to wish something so negative on poor innocent Katie, but wouldn't that be like poetic justice if that did happen? The best that would happen is that Tom would be taught a lesson he'd never forget. But poor Katie!
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Post by oldschoolgal on Oct 6, 2005 16:53:16 GMT -5
UGGGHHH!!
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Post by Pancake on Oct 6, 2005 17:18:27 GMT -5
that poor poor child....
You know what would be nuts?...if katie suffered from post pardum depression after she has the baby. I mean lets see how much tom makes her excercise and swallow vitamins before he realizes that it just doesnt work!!
I mean im not saying i want that to happen to her..of course i dont...but theres a part of me that just wants it to happen so He could get a big slap in the face!
There was an article in Cosmo or Glamour I cant remember but it was the september edition i think and it had an article about a girl who escaped scientology. If any of you can find it or post it that would be awesome. i mean its seriously disturbing.
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Post by Pancake on Oct 6, 2005 17:37:35 GMT -5
I found this.... One person sat at the table we were at and told us about how his friend was lured into the "Org" just up the street with a promise of a free lunch--- the body router must have given this guy a bullshit "free lunch" story. The guy went into the "org" was was given a "free personality test." He was then sent up stairs via the elevator ("lift" for you Empire blokes) but there was something very, very odd with this elevator: it went up but would not go down! The guy went from the "free personality test" and then the "orientation" film, and then wanted DESPERATELY to flee. He left the "orientation" film, and told folks he was no longer interested; he then went into the elevator and tried to get to the bottom floor, but it refused. The body router said there was a separate elevator to go down: without an escort the person would never find it. Clearly a case of "The way out is the way through." The guy was so turned off by this that he refused all commands that he sign up for "courses." Needless to say, he did NOT get a "free lunch" as promised. You can walk in, but you may not walk out! Sheeeish! Of course anyone who believes there is such a thing as a "free lunch" deserves such abuse. Tomorrow we want to "go to 'church'" and listen to their "sermon." Maybe we can check out the elevator and see if this guy was telling us the truth. The crime syndicate's ad in the newspaper says that EVERYONE is welcome: Barb and I are part of EVERYONE, right? Damn straight! Then we should be quite welcome. At the very least, a WARM welcome can be expected. heres the link to the whole thing: www.skeptictank.org/gen1/gen00270.htm
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Post by Pancake on Oct 6, 2005 17:48:13 GMT -5
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Post by texasgal on Oct 6, 2005 17:55:50 GMT -5
Pancake, you wrote: You can walk in, but you may not walk out!
Reminds me of a lyric from the Eagles' "Hotel California": "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."
You're brave to go to this "free lunch." Just be sure not to give your names, phone numbers, or addresses. You might get unwanted follow-up attention if you do. But I'm sure you're smart enough not to.
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Post by Remi on Oct 6, 2005 18:10:22 GMT -5
That's scary.
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Post by texasgal on Oct 6, 2005 18:32:21 GMT -5
While we're on the topic, I have to confess that I too went to a Scientology orientation once many years ago. I'm embarrassed to admit that I only did this because I had a crush on this guy who was into it; I went there to show some kind of solidarity with him, to at least show interest and give it a shot.
It was sort of an open house where they were trying to get more members. They gave a demo of what they do. One of the members would have an issue from their life that they were still wrestling with and that was interfering with living a full life. He sat on a stage with an "auditor" and told the auditor what was bugging him. The auditor just kept asking questions of the "client," encouraging him to tell the story over and over. Each time he told the story, he became more agitated until finally he could tell the story without emotion. The object is to become "clear" (using their teminology). And that, apparently, was it.
I suppose that's just the first level of being a Scientologist. I wasn't curious enough to learn what comes next, and I wasn't curious enough to go back again.
In their defense, nobody gave me the hard sell. Nobody urged me to return, threatened me, coerced me, etc. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Post by IMAQT on Oct 6, 2005 23:41:11 GMT -5
Katie Holmes' silent birthPosted Oct 6, 2005, 7:04 PM ET by Adam FinleyMy mother used drugs. My sister, also, used drugs. My mother did it three times, and my sister did it twice, but I forgive them both because, well, they were squeezing large fleshy objects called "babies" out of their bodies at the time. Apparently this will not be the case with Katie Holmes and her upcoming release, The Spawn of Tom. Scientology, it seems, does not allow drugs to be used during child birth. New York Daily News quotes this line from L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics: "Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save the sanity of the mother and the child and safeguard the home to which they will go." Sure, whatever. Listen, Tom joined the Church of Scientology in the mid-1980s, and his career soon began to skyrocket with films like Top Gun, The Color of Money, and Rain Man. He obviously knows something we don't. Considering that Katie Holmes has been in some reputable movies but no huge blockbusters, it would probably be in her best interest to just take the pain as the child gnaws through her ribcage and explodes from her torso where seven armed guards will be ready to coerce the sub-creature into an iron cage with a slab of meat. If some mediocre sci-fi writer's inane pseudo-religion requires it, you really have no choice. www.cinematical.com/2005/10/06/katie-holmes-silent-birth/
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Post by Mrs.Sylfian on Oct 7, 2005 6:14:29 GMT -5
well to be honest i don`t really believe in their relationship.....i don`t know why something just isn`t right here.....but i she gets post pardum depression so then i hope Brook Shields will make a comment on that! maybe it will shut him up or make him jump less......coz his behaviour its embarassing now...
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Post by hurltomato on Oct 7, 2005 11:54:37 GMT -5
The Spawn of Tom... -you really have no choice. Well regarding choice- technically... ya did! Before there was jumping on couches and guest spots on TV talk shows, there were preventatives that allow a couple complete and thoughtful future life choices. Now any & all of your choices together involve another small human being. Be very-very wise. I sincerely wish them well- HurlT
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