sunsetghost
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"'I want us to become brothers again, like we used to be.' I really like that line." -Owen Wilson
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Post by sunsetghost on Jul 2, 2008 13:32:55 GMT -5
#rant# Hey all, I haven't been on much lately so my apologies if this has already been discussed, but I just have to vent...... This whole Lance/Kate fling is really beginning to get on my nerves! Lance, a supposed friend, has now hooked up with TWO women that have had significant relationships with Owen. I am really trying to refrain from judging but that doesn't seem much like true "friendship" behavior to me. Kate & Lance seem to really be flaunting their relationship in front of the paparazzi....while remaining coy about it (except for Kate's giggling) on talk shows. I even saw a reference (can't remember where???) that Lance was seen leaving Kate's in a shirt that used to belong to Owen. Probably not true....and how the paps would even know is beyond me........but GRRRRR. And all those lovey dovey pics of Lance/Kate with captions that hint that poor Owen is all alone, drowning his sorrows, etc.... Maybe none of this bothers Owen....but it sure bugs me! #stampfeet# Oh well.....thanks for forgiving me an outlet to gripe! And now back to your reglularly scheduled discussions....
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Post by hansel07 on Jul 2, 2008 17:11:03 GMT -5
I feel a lot of simpathy towards Owen nowadays. From a part there is all the gossip of this open and wide relationship (public hugs, kisses, they 're causing me to vomit), from the other, while he is working seriously there's Jennifer Aniston with this musician story who acts like a superstar (great hotels, private flights). So who is the real jerk? I think a lot of people really made a big mistake accusing Owen of wrong and dirt behaviour.
I really appreciate the words under your avatar, when Owen said that he really impressed me so much. I wanna believe his family is with him, he isn't travelling through Europe alone...
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Post by texasgal on Jul 2, 2008 17:44:24 GMT -5
I really try to avoid judging the behavior of others but sometimes it's really difficult. Now that you've opened the door, Sunsetghost, I'll place some of the blame on you. J/k. ;D I'm referring to Kate Hudson and her remarkable ability to get all lovey-dovey with one guy after the other. It's bad enough to start dating a new guy within 48 hours of dumping (or being dumped by) a previous. ("Bad" in the sense that it's emotionally unhealthy, and "bad" in the sense that it just makes her look like a tramp. Tramp is as tramp does). And I don't mean to imply that only women are tramps. Men are too. Whatever, she has an amazing ability to recover from the end of one relationship and jump into the next with yet another "wonderfully suited" partner. And despite her allegations of not needing a man to be happy, she certainly is with a lot of "unneeded" men. All the hugs and kisses and PDA could be just an act for the cameras, but why the need to act for the cameras?? Especially when she's not being paid to act? OK, so I'll stop ragging on Kate now. I confess some of my ragging could be due to sheer jealousy. She gets with any guy she wants, and I'm never with any!!! ('Course, when I look in the mirror, it's easy to see why). As for the musical chair-dating of the same few actors/actresses, I've wondered about that too. There could be several reasons for this. One could be that they all have similar characteristics that they find attractive. As for the Lance/Owen "friendship," I've read that they actually barely know each other so, if that's true, their friendship is more of an acquaintanceship. I doubt Owen is "drowning in sorrow." He could be feeling sadness because he & Kate liked each other very much and spent a lot of time together. But at some point, they must have realized they were better friends than partners. I think any such report of sorrow is due more to the media looking to increase sales than due to fact. Yeah! He had trouble last August, so let's say he's got trouble again. That'll really rack up the sales! I'd need to see more evidence of him "drowning in sorrow" than a few unconfirmed reports by unidentified "witnesses." So far, I've not seen any such evidence, and I sure hope I never do!! As for Jennifer Aniston, I've not read anything about her being romantically involved with Owen. In fact, she's pretty hot & heavy with John Mayer which I think began during the filming of M&M. I thought she & Owen were together only professionally, such as on the set of M&M or in a business situation related to the movie.
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Post by hansel07 on Jul 2, 2008 18:25:20 GMT -5
I don't refer to relationship between Owen and Aniston, but all the chaos around her when she moves, and Owen being involved (only professionally)
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chevygirl
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Post by chevygirl on Jul 2, 2008 19:02:45 GMT -5
In my opinion (and I base this on personal experience), for Kate to move on so quickly means she was emotionally checked out of her relationship with Owen for a while. No one knows for sure really and we have no idea how Owen was feeling at the time of the split. I'm pretty sure I know what he's going through though. When my ex & I decided to get a divorce, I found out about a new woman in his life the night before I moved out. They promptly started dating like the very next day. He felt that once it was all out in the open they could be all public about it. Hurt pretty bad even though the decision to split was a joint one and I was very unhappy in the marriage. Oh and pretty much buried my self esteem in the dirt. Even if Owen was emotionally checked out as well, it may still sting a little to see Kate flaunting this new relationship around. Maybe he puts blinders on when he's checking out at the grocery store and doesn't see any of this crap!
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Post by texasgal on Jul 2, 2008 19:51:19 GMT -5
Yeah, you could be right, Chevygirl. I went through a divorce too a long time ago. I compare it to having a decayed tooth pulled. The tooth is decayed and needs to come out, but it still hurts to pull it. And yes, you're absolutely right about being "checked out." I was emotionally checked out of my marriage years before I took action.
Could be Owen's pride that keeps him from showing much hurt publicly. He either is feeling hurt and just not showing it, or not feeling much hurt at all. He might even be feeling relieved. Maybe he felt he didn't try hard enough the first time he was dating Kate. If they got together again a few months ago, as the tabs reported, maybe he felt he gave it a good fair shot this time, found it not the right relationship for him and is feeling satisfied that at least he gave it an honest try. (I'm really speculating here....)
It looks like Kate & Owen had a lot of fun together and may have shared a lot in common with each other. But even that does not necessarily make for a lasting, intimate relationship leading to marriage. Some people are just great together as friends and not as anything else. (My ex & I may have fit that category and spoiled it by getting married).
Good thing Kate & Owen discovered this about each other before they got married; easier to break a dating relationship than a marriage.
And we still don't know who dumped whom which would be significant.
OK, hansel, I understand what you're saying.
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sunsetghost
Ned Coleman's Partner
Keeper of Dignan's Big Gun
"'I want us to become brothers again, like we used to be.' I really like that line." -Owen Wilson
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Post by sunsetghost on Jul 2, 2008 20:52:49 GMT -5
I think what bothers me most is how K&L seem to be flaunting the relationship in such an in-your-face kind of way. (That may be a totally biased and unfair assessment on my part, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em) At the very least, K&L are not doing anything to hide the fact they are a couple. They are photographed EVERYWHERE, and yet Kate insists on all the talk shows that she doesn't want to discuss her personal life. Her incessant giggling everytime Lance is mentioned gets on my nerves- big time! #rolleyes#
I know the paparazzi will often go to extreme lengths to get "the shot," but this feels to me to be a deliberate cooperation between K&L and the paps. Kind of reminds me of the Dax Shepard pics from last summer. Kate knew she was being photgraphed and yet her PDA's with Dax were hot & heavy.
I don't have any idea what happened between Owen and Kate. But, I can't help but view Kate's bahavior as an intentional "take that" to Owen. Just tonight there was footage of Kate, Lance & Goldie going into "The Ivy" and heading for the same back table where Owen and Kate were photographed (one of their rare photos together) in '06. Maybe just a coincidence....maybe not. #stampfeet#
If Kate & Lance are happy together, fine. But, the public lovey-dovey stuff so soon after a highly publicized reconciliation/break-up is just tacky in my book. #nono#
My sincere hope is that Owen has moved passed all this and is happy, healthy and enjoying the summer.
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peg
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Post by peg on Jul 2, 2008 21:55:38 GMT -5
I agree with you sunset. I thought the same thing with all the PDA with Dax too. For someone who claims she does not need a man she sure never is without one. I hope Owen has moved passed this too.
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Post by texasgal on Jul 2, 2008 23:04:54 GMT -5
If Kate's behavior is out of revenge, then yes, I see your point, Sunset. I guess I hadn't been thinking of it that way but the way you put it, it looks that way.
It could indicate either Owen or Kate who terminated their relationship. If it was Kate who dumped Owen, she could be rubbing Owen's face in it via Lance (who seems to be a very willing accomplice). Or else Owen dumped Kate, in which case her actions are saying to him "take that" as you suggest. It could be either way. Either way, her actions don't indicate a mutual agreement between Owen & Kate if her subsequent behavior is meant for Owen's "benefit."
Owen, for his part, either doesn't care what Kate is doing since their breakup, or else is pretending not to care. Whatever, he is a class act for ignoring it and not speaking about it. All the evidence points to Owen having long moved on.
I've noticed for quite a while that this year seems to be a repeat of last year. Post-Owen last year: Dax Shepard. Post-Owen this year: Lance Armstrong. I just hope this is the end of any repeated goings-on, and Owen passes this August free and clear, happy and at peace.
I haven't kept up with Kate on the talk shows to know of her giggling but, yes, I would find that irritating too.
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Post by meowencrazy on Jul 2, 2008 23:36:50 GMT -5
Sunset, you've put it perfectly. All i can add is, i admire owen. During the making of YMAD, owen seemed at ease with lance eve though, at that time, lance was either seeing or had been with sheryl crow. O was one of the producers of the muvee, so he could have got lance's scene chopped off. Even now he is unpeturbed. I really admire that.
As far as jen goes, i dont see why she should be dragged into this. Of what i've heard, she had been supportive of O during his hard time, like she had been there for robert downey jr. I doubt her and johns romance made any difference to owen since he had been thru the same thing with kate during ymad. Besides, i firmly believe that they were ever together, since, unlike lance, owen is not known to date his friend's (vince's) ex (jen).
I just hope we all dont get worked up becuz of kate-lance's behavior. In the end, what matters is owens happiness.
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Post by texasgal on Jul 3, 2008 6:39:26 GMT -5
If someone is "through" with somebody, I don't know why they should care what that person does next. If Owen is "through" with Kate, I don't see why he should care what Kate is now doing.
It seems that it's Kate who isn't "through" with Owen if her post-Owen behavior has anything to do with Owen.
Maybe I just don't get it.
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Podbaydoor
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Post by Podbaydoor on Jul 30, 2008 17:04:49 GMT -5
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sunsetghost
Ned Coleman's Partner
Keeper of Dignan's Big Gun
"'I want us to become brothers again, like we used to be.' I really like that line." -Owen Wilson
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Post by sunsetghost on Jul 30, 2008 20:00:07 GMT -5
Up until this point, I didn't really care who Owen hooked up with as long as he was healthy and happy. But, I've got to say, I really hope he is done with Kate. I don't think she's healthy for him and her bouncing from man to man is getting old. I cannot imagine how confusing the rotating boyfriends must be for Ryder. #unsure#
I admit, I don't have a clue as to the back story but I kinda hope Owen is done with Lance too. With friends like that...........
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chevygirl
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Post by chevygirl on Jul 30, 2008 22:22:14 GMT -5
I heard about the breakup on ET while I was donating blood. It said something about them being in Ohio over the weekend and that's when it happened. And yes he was in Columbus over the weekend for a summit on cancer. A friend of mine is involved with our local chapter on cervical cancer coalition (she's a survivor) and she was there. She showed me pictures that she took....I tried not to vomit on the pic of Mr. Armstrong.
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Post by meowencrazy on Jul 30, 2008 22:40:25 GMT -5
KEEP HER AWAY FROM OWEN!! He deserves so much more... I feel for poor li'l Ryder too. No wonder he looks so unhappy. Honestly, seeing his mum "out there" is probably like looking at an harpy eagle ready to attack a poor unsuspecting rodent chevy: ROFL!
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