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Post by meowencrazy on Aug 28, 2008 4:41:42 GMT -5
I was not around to post yesterday, due to the tragic death of my friends granddaughter...long story... The Wilson's have been in my thoughts and prayers. I hope 8/26/07 was a rebirth for Owen. I had faced a similar situation on 1/14/87 and I, too, was fortunate enough to have been found and to be given the opportunity to start anew. So say I love you to the ones you love...you just never know... Hugs and Love, Susan Even I hope Owen will rise from the ashes like a phoenix. Susan, you're such a wonderful person. I'm really happy you got your chance at rebirth. You definately did deserve it #hug#
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Post by sld1164 on Aug 28, 2008 11:09:27 GMT -5
Thank you very much SP! I posted a new thread about Scorpio's. The phoenix is very strong in our sign.
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Post by texasgal on Aug 28, 2008 18:55:48 GMT -5
SLD, that was very brave of you to post something so personal about yourself. I've battled the blues since a teen and have come close to where you were in January 1987 though not as far. Congratulations on your recovery!
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Post by sld1164 on Aug 28, 2008 19:58:19 GMT -5
You know Tex, I didn't talk about it for over 10 years. One day I just realized that I need to embrace what happened because had those events not occurred, I wouldn't be who I am today and I like the Me of today soooooooo much better. I like to think I can help others by talking about these things openly. Do I still get the blues? Yep, but with meds, I can now see the spiral going down and reach out to stop it. Reach out being the key. I have even come to look at the scars when I head downward and have total recall and I just don't want to walk that path again.
It just sucks when you feel all alone, even when you are in a crowd. That is pretty much how I felt. My episode was brought on when my BF of 5 yrs broke up with me. I was young and in love, so I thought. Now I think, gosh, why did I waste 5 years with that idiot?! #dontknow#
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sunsetghost
Ned Coleman's Partner
Keeper of Dignan's Big Gun
"'I want us to become brothers again, like we used to be.' I really like that line." -Owen Wilson
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Post by sunsetghost on Aug 28, 2008 20:41:18 GMT -5
Hey sld, Thank you so much for sharing your story of healing and recovery. #flowers# I really do believe stories such as yours help those who are suffering to know they are not alone and that depression can be overcome. While I can't personally relate to what you went thru, I do know first hand the tragedy that can come from depression. I lost my only brother in July 06. It haunts me every day. My parents and I will have to live for the rest of our lives with the fact that we didn't save him from himself. "If only...." is our constant mantra. Although I totally respect his choice to remain private, I think it would be such a source of inspiration if Owen, a Hollywood A-lister, came forward with his story of recovery (if in fact it was a suicide attempt). Depression is soooo common and yet it remains almost taboo in this country.
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Post by sld1164 on Aug 28, 2008 21:26:10 GMT -5
I'm so sorry for your loss. #hug# I do hope you can come to realize that there wasn't anything you could do. I will tell you first hand what I went through and I hope it will shed some light. I didn't show anyone any signs at all. I was too embarrassed to admit that I had a problem that I could not control. On the outside I was happy go lucky and moving along "just fine". Inside I was a scrambled mess. As soon as I was alone, my brain overtook me and just kept listing over and over all the things in my life that I did wrong, went wrong. or failed at. Why kids from grade school didn't like me (I was in my 20's and going back to grade school to make my case in my head). That led to the why me's and the this could only happen to me and what will I fail at next. When I was alone, I couldn't sleep at night and wanted to sleep all day. I barely at 1 bagel over 3 months. I was literally sick to my stomach and I really really just wanted to make all the pain stop and to just not think anymore, I wanted to go to sleep. Up to that point, I never thought I could do something like that and I really didn't spend much time "planning" either. It was just something I needed to do and here was this razor, BF's razor on the counter to the left of the sink... the blade was the only thing that made any sense at the time. I didn't give my family or friends a single thought. I was in a dark place and in that place, it was all about me. I was pretty selfish. I just kept it all to myself. My sisters and my bff still say they had no idea of the struggles I was dealing with. Heck, I even went to Ft. Lauderdale with my bff while going through this. Little did she know, I probably slept 10 hours that whole week and I know she didn't know that I was barfing in the bathroom after eating. I had to eat. It was part of the guise.
I work on a suicide hotline once a week and hear many stories and most of the time they say, "I have no one to talk to. No one would understand how I feel..." I am amazed that they found the helpline at all. If I knew one existed at the time, I would not have called.
I don't know how to end this...I know I rambled on...I just thought you might have wanted to hear from someone that's been there.
Hugs and Love, Susan
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Post by texasgal on Aug 30, 2008 7:04:12 GMT -5
Susan, that's brave of you to reveal so much about yourself. As for wanting to hear from someone who's been there, I've wondered the same about Owen. Telling the world what exactly happened on August 26th last year might be cathartic for him. (But I'm looking at it from my point of view, not his). Maybe he'll write his autobio someday.
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Post by meowencrazy on Aug 30, 2008 8:30:14 GMT -5
#iagree# I hope he's able to be the same ol' Owie we all came to love, in December.
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Post by lunkhead on Aug 30, 2008 13:39:52 GMT -5
Susan, that's brave of you to reveal so much about yourself. As for wanting to hear from someone who's been there, I've wondered the same about Owen. Telling the world what exactly happened on August 26th last year might be cathartic for him. (But I'm looking at it from my point of view, not his). Maybe he'll write his autobio someday. I agree with you, tex, it could be cathartic, but I think he needs more time. Sometimes it takes years to realise exactly what happened and why. And sometimes you feel ashamed and guilty and you don't feel like talking about this kind of things because you know that there are people out there who endure great tragedies without getting self-destructive and sick people who would want to live but are doomed to die... @susan: I think that you are really strong and brave to share what you had been through.
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Post by texasgal on Aug 30, 2008 22:21:46 GMT -5
I agree with you, tex, it could be cathartic, but I think he needs more time. Sometimes it takes years to realise exactly what happened and why. And sometimes you feel ashamed and guilty and you don't feel like talking about this kind of things because you know that there are people out there who endure great tragedies without getting self-destructive and sick people who would want to live but are doomed to die. I understand that. That's why I've not been surprised he hasn't addressed it publicly. He knows that if he did, he would be dragging it up again not just for himself but for his family too which he probably doesn't wish to do. I'm sure he is well aware of the agony he caused them by being hospitalized for whatever reason it was - unintentionally of course. They may have told him what affect that event had on them, which would make him feel guilty. So naturally he may be gun-shy about dredging all that up again and may feel better to let it lie in the past. He could very well feel ashamed and embarrassed by whatever it was that happened. That's why I suggested he may be more likely to address it in an autobio to be written many years in the future rather than in speech - if addressed at all. And I'm sure he's aware of his good health and priviledged socioeconomic position.
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Post by texasgal on Aug 31, 2008 8:02:47 GMT -5
In addition to the above, he might also be afraid that if he addresses it, he might inadvertently negatively influence others.
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Post by meowencrazy on Aug 31, 2008 8:09:02 GMT -5
As long as he's ready to do he little, necessary publicity...Failure of M&M, at this stage, will be a set back for his career. And he cannot afford to boycott it, even if he wants to (though I hope not). He may then get the label of 'the guy who abandons his movies'
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Post by texasgal on Aug 31, 2008 16:42:31 GMT -5
Yes, that's a good point, SP. He may have appeared to boycott the opening of Drillbit Taylor but I excuse his absence due to conflicting commitments as he was already filming M&M when Drillbit opened.
But if he's a no-show for the M&M premier, I agree that will not look good. Unless there's a legitimate excuse such as filming a new movie. Apart from that, I doubt he would be absent from M&M premier. I think M&M means a lot to him for several reasons, and I'm sure he'd want to do everything he can to support it. Let's hope so!
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Post by sld1164 on Sept 2, 2008 9:46:26 GMT -5
"And sometimes you feel ashamed and guilty and you don't feel like talking about this kind of things because you know that there are people out there who endure great tragedies without getting self-destructive and sick people who would want to live but are doomed to die... "
Lunkhead, that's exactly what I felt when I was in the hospital (psych ward for 30 days) after my event. I felt small, like my problems were minimal, but I had to be around others with worse problems to realize that mine were minor. It took me 10 good years to finally come to terms and begin to talk about it.
I hope Owen starts making some press rounds for M&M. I miss him. I miss his smile and that voice. #bounce#
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Post by meowencrazy on Sept 2, 2008 10:29:11 GMT -5
Me too... Maybe I was a li'l harsh when he didnt appear for the premiere's of TT&HPIH. The way I look at it, If he starts to face the media now onwards, he can take things slowl, little at a time, but if he comes out directly during M&M, he will be flooded with irrelevant and hurtful questions and the attention will deviate from the movie. M&M simply has to be a success. Not only for Owen, but for Jen and David Frankel too. Most of all, the movie even looks good. M&M, please be a success! #praying#
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